Podcasts & Interviews
Explore fresh perspectives on leadership, personal growth, and organizational development through conversations with Dr. Mo Shabahang and his guests.
From the Reframing with Empower Tomorrow podcast to interviews and discussions, each conversation offers an opportunity to challenge assumptions, consider new ideas, and rethink how we lead, connect, and grow.
Watch. Listen. Think. Reframe.
Every Encounter Matters: The Power of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership | Episode 3
Released October 14, 2026
What if one small interaction could change someone's entire day?
In Episode 3 of Reframing with Empower Tomorrow, Dr. Mo Shabahang and co-host BA White explore how everyday encounters influence the people around us. Inspired by BA's experience with a flight attendant whose kindness left a lasting impression, they discuss emotional intelligence, empathy, trust, and the power of human connection.
From navigating difficult days to recognizing how our attitudes affect others, this conversation reminds us that leadership isn't always about big decisions. Sometimes, it's simply about how we make people feel.
Every encounter matters. Every time.
Watch. Listen. Think. Reframe.
The Ted Lasso Way: Leadership Lessons in Curiosity, Empathy & Teamwork | Episode 2
Released October 1, 2026
What can Ted Lasso teach us about becoming better leaders?
In Episode 2 of Reframing with Empower Tomorrow, Dr. Mo Shabahang and co-host BA White explore leadership through the lens of Ted Lasso. From curiosity and empathy to feedback, teamwork, and empowering others, they look at the leadership lessons behind the show—and why understanding people may matter more than having all the answers.
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Reframing Leadership: From Answers to Curiosity | Episode 1
Released September 21, 2026
What if becoming a better leader isn’t about having all the answers—but being willing to ask better questions?
In the first episode of Reframing with Empower Tomorrow, Dr. Mo Shabahang and co-host BA White explore leadership, self-actualization, emotional intelligence, relationships, vulnerability, and personal growth. Together, they challenge familiar ideas about leadership and invite you to consider new perspectives on how we lead, connect, and grow.
Watch. Listen. Think. Reframe.
Humbitious and Positive Intent Mindset:
A Conversation with Amer Kaissi
In this 28-minute interview, Amer Kaissi, the author of Humbitious and Positive Intent Mindset, discusses his reason for writing these books. Simply, he felt that humility seems to be missing from much of leadership.
In these transformative books, Amer Kaissi makes an evidence-based argument for the synergistic relationship of humility and ambition in leadership, saying, “These leaders elevate with ambition and connect with humility.” He continues the argument for the cycle of trust that emanates from a positive intent mindset and how this can lead to increased engagement for all of us.
Appreciative Inquiry:
A Conversation with Professor Ron Fry
Mo speaks with Professor Emeritus Ron Fry of Case Western Reserve University about Appreciative Inquiry, a strengths-based approach to organizational change and leadership. They discuss how leaders can leverage existing strengths, positive emotional engagement, and collaborative inquiry to create meaningful and sustainable change.
One of the key insights from this discussion is that the questions we ask influence the outcomes we achieve. By focusing on strengths, possibilities, and shared successes rather than solely on problems, leaders can unlock creativity, innovation, and greater engagement within their teams and organizations.
What is Emotional Intelligence:
A Conversation with Dr. BA White
In this 16-minute conversation, Mo discusses with Dr. White the concept of Emotional Intelligence: the definition, the application, and the use of the terminology.
One of the highlights of this conversation is the fact that emotional intelligence (EI, EQ) is not a quantitative construct that is high or low. EI is contextual; the environment and circumstances affect emotional intelligence.
Yes to the Mess:
What Jazz Teaches Us About Creativity and Leadership
Mo speaks with Frank J. Barrett, professor of Organizational Development at the Case Western Reserve University and author of Yes to the Mess, about what jazz can teach us about leadership, creativity, and working through uncertainty. In this conversation, Dr. Barrett shares seven core principles—from unlearning and autonomy to learning from mistakes and building strong relationships—that help individuals and organizations become more adaptive, collaborative, and innovative.
From Tension to Traction Series
Below are recordings from the first two sessions of our From Tension to Traction seminar series with Zoie Newman and Mo Shabahang. These conversations explore how leaders can navigate change, engage in healthy conflict, and build resilience in the face of adversity through practical tools, reflection, and discussion.
Leadership in Healthcare
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, “We’re in the World of Superlatives,” host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Mohsen Shabahang, Chief Medical Officer at WellSpan Health.
They discuss Dr. Shabahang's journey from surgical oncology to healthcare leadership and how the healthcare system faces significant challenges related to compensation models.
Dr. Shabahang advocates for a balance between clinical productivity and other contributions and states, “external validations are valuable but should not define one's worth.”
Healthcare leadership is a marathon and Dr. "Mo" will share what it takes to run the race.
